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General Discussion => General topics => Topic started by: Armin on 2007-07-19 23:33:02

Title: Next semester
Post by: Armin on 2007-07-19 23:33:02
Hi folks!

This is to mourn the old times, and to prepare you for what is going to come. As you might know, there are three Lehrtühle at the Seminar für Sprachwissenschaft, partly formerly held by Uwe Mönnich, Erhard Hinrichs and Arnim v. Stechow. Except for my semester, noone will have had courses with Uwe Mönnich, but he's still around! And his position is vacant for more than a year now. It is by now official, that the first candidate on the list (John Nerbonne) has rejected his choice. How that came about (the choice and the rejection) is a totally different story, with examples of strategy and bad style.

The second person on the list is being asked right now, and although many have heard rumors who of the seven original candidates that is, it is not official. For those of you who don't know the inofficial news: You won't know him either, so it doesn't matter. For the others: I haven't heard any other rumors, so just guess that you are right. Apparently people are not allowed to make these rumors official. Whether he accepts or not, it seems that the position will be vacant for at least one more semester.

For the M.A. 2nd semester students that means no additional Hauptseminare in the Wintersemester. I haven't counted the credit points that are available from all courses, but I feel embarassed for having complained last year - considering next year's situation. We still had a choice and a chance to get the necessary points. Next semester there will be few courses, but with surprisingly many CPs (for extra work, I guess). Altogether there will be two or three block seminars, of which only one is in the Vorlesungsverzeichnis yet, the one by Sandra Kübler on Machine Learning. Definitely a good opportunity to get credits in a nice seminar.

v. Stechow's chair is vacant as well, and there won't be a replacement too soon. This time the Fachschaft has sent Aleks and Charlotte into the committee; they will know about the proceedings, but probably won't be allowed to tell :)

Fritz Hamm's contract couldn't be prolonged (because of university regulations). The same holds for Heike Zinsmeister (if I understood that correctly). The SFB is being closed soon, so the people around Laura Kallmeyer, who helped fill the gaps in teaching, will also have to look for something else. Hubert's good-bye party is tomorrow (See you there! As there won't be a SfS party, unfortunately). With 80-90% Frank will leave after this semester. After Zoulfia (whom most of you won't remember) and Sandra this means, there won't be any student advisor any more. This is a point where the Fachschaft needs to kick in!

Some people are already getting into trouble wanting to register for a final thesis, because Frank won't be there and there is noone else to do that. Have I forgotten anyone leaving? Well, me, but that doesn't hurt.

So what will it be like next semester?

4th semester students have already taken almost every Proseminar that's offered next semester. Semantics II won't take place for obvious reasons (unless... but I do not want to put certain people under any pressure *gg*). Today's 2nd semester students of General Linguistics will suffer from a wide lack of courses. Wolfgang Sternefeld is left as the only lecturer in GL, and Elena Bilan will offer a course on Chinese (I haven't asked her, but I believe she would rather want to continue her research).

By the beginning of next semester I believe several things will have been improved compared to today. At least in the BA courses everyone will get their credit points. All others are advised to have a look at the Germanistics and other Brechtbau departments, the Information Science etc.

The Fachschaft was held up by students of the 4th BA and 4th MA semester. We mainly organized the TaCoS. All those people will leave soon. We are leaving you a lot of money for parties, given somebody will take over the account.

Who will continue the Fachschaft? Come on, do something for yourselves! Who will take care of the new first semester students? You! And that means the 2nd semester, MA and BA. Student numbers are going down, and my semester still holds the all-time record of 18 BAs (out of 21 starters)! Those were better times, with more lecturers, more funding from the university, no fees, more parties. Not all hope is lost, though, but filling the positions again will take longer than most of you will be studying.

I wish you all the best. Keep your head up, and if you complain, do it loudly and to the right people.

Title: Re: Next semester
Post by: aleks on 2007-07-20 03:27:22
Wow, so much work on a nice post by a person who's gonna leave anyways ;)

It's all beginning to sound like a real apocalypse by now, I just hope it won't be one. As I'll probably be leaving for good after next year most of this will barely scratch me, but I'm feeling sorry for the SfS because it's just such a nice place after all. Seems as those next years are going to be hollow years for the SfS - I myself will probably want to fill them with learning Hindi and probably Persian, Sanskrit or Arabic and hopefully some interesting seminars about machine learning or even better, AI programming. Unfortunately Tübingen seems to be not the right spot if you're looking for the latter - though it's doing extremely well on the former. I wonder how Indologie are keeping there necks dry as their student numbers are even smaller than ours. By the way, how many are left from our semester? Seven? Eight?

And has anybody heard about the amount of Bachelor applicants for next semester? I heard of a ridiculously small number which I'm ashamed to tell.

To answer a Johannes' question from another thread where it's offtopic:

Wie sieht es eigentlich bei Dir aus, Aleks? Weißt Du schon, was Du nach dem BA machst?
Hindi, Sanskrit/Arabisch (eins von beiden, hab mich noch nicht entschieden) und "Mathematische und Philosophische Logik", sowie Machine Learning and Pattern Recognition (aber das wird vielleicht langweilig..., hab auch Alternativen überlegt)  an der InfoKog-Fakultät.

Belegt irgendwer den Kurs bei Sandra? Hört sich echt klasse an, ich bin wohl dabei.

And does anybody know of a nice course on neural networks and/or AI programming and other such weird things in Tübingen? I'm even willing to firm my grasp of LISP ;) Just as long as someone's gonna tell me something about smart machines...

Ah, and by the way: there's a "Einführung in Rechtswissenschaften" at the InfoKog-faculty.

Maybe we should just gather interesting alternatives to our courses in other faculties here. Go ahead :)
Title: Re: Next semester
Post by: Kilian on 2007-07-20 09:29:07
Thank you for the beautiful poignant speech, Armin. :)

In our semester, there's 8 people left. No matter how few new people are coming, we should get them active in the Fachschaft from the start.

I think our web site needs a decent front-end, where photos of contact persons and a list of activities jumps right at you, not so much our forum index. I alreaday have a draft on my mind which I can translate into XHTML one of the next week-ends.

As for the courses: Yes, I plan to take part in Sandra's course.
Title: Re: Next semester
Post by: DrNI on 2007-07-20 10:36:54
Ah, and by the way: there's a "Einführung in Rechtswissenschaften" at the InfoKog-faculty.

The computer science department has quite something to offer. This is especially interesting for MA students! However, one needs to ask Frank (or null in the future?) whether that can be counted towards the MA or not.

Looking at the SfS and its future... it's not such a happy situation for us MA people. There is free choice. In theory.
Title: Re: Next semester
Post by: johannes on 2007-07-20 11:10:46
Well... Nice to see everyone in my semester planning to desert after the BA. Can't blame you, though. I'd also do that if noone kept me here...

I am just done writing my Math II exam (yes, I'm doing stuff at the Morgenstelle), next semester it will be Math III and Machine Learning for me - see you there, Aleks - possibly also in Arabic - are you planning to take the 8-hours course next semester?). Oh and I'll be there at Kübler's compact seminar...

As a result, I'm going to spend at most 2 hours (Ereignissemantik) a week at the SfS. Embarassing they can't offer me anything other than that.

For the MA: Well, it seems I'm really better off with the computer scientists at the moment. If the situation has not improved next year, I'll just move over to the Morgenstelle and mourn when looking at the VVZ in Saarbrücken or Potsdam or whereever, where you guys are going to have interesting and enjoyable courses on all those nice topics... Seems I'll have to learn a lot on my own if I want to stay within CL, which I really desperately want. Not too much L (or other kinds of L) and more C, but still...

As for the "people around Kallmeyer" - to which I belong since the beginning of the month - well, at least we/they're going to say another three semesters as well as the rest of the SFB. Until then, the situation at the SfS might have improved. *yes I know please don't*

Aleks, tell me/us: How many people are going to come next semester? What have you heard? *dismal forebodings*

Thanks for offering to do sth about the webpage, Kilian. Now that I'm through with the exams (this thread is really spoiling my relief), I'll be able to support you in that matter. Let's just meet and discuss/design somethign really nice and fancy... Also a nice way for me to refresh my rusty knowledge of web design. *g*
Title: Re: Next semester
Post by: Anna on 2007-07-20 11:36:53
Wow, a real exodus of the fourth semester people! But what am I to say, I'm leaving for a year and depending on how the situation at the SfS will look like -- either come back or leave.
We might not care SO much since we got something else planned but it's not going to be a pleasant time for the younger semesters especially. One can only hope that this depressing situation will not last longer that 1-2 semesters...
Title: Re: Next semester
Post by: Laura on 2007-07-20 15:22:40
Aleks: There is an introduction to computational neuroscience at the gradschool. Don't know if there'll be much programming, but I think I heard something about neural networks.
I'm taking the machine learning class with Sandra, Perl, Linguistic Annotation, Ereignissemantik and that neuroscience thing. And - hopefully - a Russian course. Apart from that, I'm going to relax. Maybe write a book. There must be some good in already having done everything you need to...  :-\

Oh, but wait. Armin, are you actually serious about offering an OT course? Aleks, shall we be so crazy as to try and teach Semantics II? Would anybody be interested?

Johannes, really!  :D I have the same reasons for leaving as you have for staying. The bad prospects concerning the VVZ only confirm a decision I made even before coming here. Would have been the same if I had gone to Potsdam. Or no matter where.

Is there anybody but Dale left to supervise the internships? I probably would have asked him anyway, but I'd like to be the one who chooses.  ;)
Title: Re: Next semester
Post by: johannes on 2007-07-20 15:54:03
Just spent a few minutes at the SfS and had business with Richter and Saile, so I asked them both about what they think of the situation.

Richter will have decided whether he goes by the end of next week, but once more said chances were low. However, he told me they're actually planning to fill in Mönnich's vacancy with a temporary position until his successor comes (whoever that might be). That could already happen this WS, which means that the very lean version of the KVV we got is only a preliminary schedule containing everything they can be sure of being able to offer. However, Richter is sure there will be more seminars taking place than what's in the KVV at the moment... No reason for panicking, that means.

I should have asked Richter about the number of applicants this semester... Saile also only knows the rumours, which seem to be ... pretty bad, and the applications they got allegedly also weren't of very high quality. The main reason for this seems to be that given the tuition fees, basically no one from Eastern Europe or Asia wants to come any more... This is the REAL problem. The temporary lack of professors, teachers and lecturers is transitory, the real threat is lack of interested people on the student's side. Isn't that sad? *sob*

Title: Re: Next semester
Post by: Laura on 2007-07-20 17:01:58
It IS. Of course, with the tuition fees, people won't want to come any more. I'd just like to know whether that's the case in all international courses of study or only here... And let's face it: CL is somewhat an orchid subject, whatever that's in English.
Title: Re: Next semester
Post by: Kilian on 2007-07-21 01:33:32
Thanks for offering to do sth about the webpage, Kilian. Now that I'm through with the exams (this thread is really spoiling my relief), I'll be able to support you in that matter. Let's just meet and discuss/design somethign really nice and fancy... Also a nice way for me to refresh my rusty knowledge of web design. *g*

Let's absolutely do that. :)

Chat at HT's party revealed there was a total of about 21 applications. I heard that all but five who did not meet certain hard formal requirements were accepted.
Title: Re: Next semester
Post by: johannes on 2007-07-21 13:35:14
This is ... disastrous. So how was Hubert's party apart from that?
Title: Re: Next semester
Post by: Kilian on 2007-07-21 13:40:10
Very nice. Lots of tasty food and silly talk. Second semester students gave Hubert a T-shirt with a tree representing the moraic structure of Ala-fucking-bama on the back.
Title: Re: Next semester
Post by: Laura on 2008-11-06 23:23:36
Aaaaaargh! I wanna go baaaaaaaack!!!!  :'(
Title: Re: Next semester
Post by: aleks on 2008-11-08 04:41:37
Well, just come to visit us then :-)
Title: Re: Next semester
Post by: Armin on 2008-11-11 10:14:11
Last year's story continues. You probably know a lot more than me this time.

The story of candidate one (you know who) rejecting and candidate two (you know who it is, at least you certainly do if you have talked to me in the last half year) being asked continues. I personally like the recent development, but nothing's any kind of official yet. This would also imply my return to Tübingen. Still you might very well say this candidate is not a straight continuation of v. Stechow's work.

I am totally underinformed about the status of the new SFB. Although I concluded there must be a temporal gap between the two, and I was wondering, what are people doing in the meantime?
Title: Re: Next semester
Post by: Laura on 2008-11-13 06:16:19
Maybe next summer or so. Depends on too many factors to tell right now.  :'(

Maybe in five years or so, as a junior professor! (If I learn how to do fundraising till then)
Title: Re: Next semester
Post by: aleks on 2008-11-16 14:21:21
I am totally underinformed about the status of the new SFB. Although I concluded there must be a temporal gap between the two, and I was wondering, what are people doing in the meantime?
The new SFB is planned for mid-summer next year. In the meantime, people try to keep themselves from starving, I guess. Kepser will probably not be able to finish his course in Formal Languages II, because he's heading 'draußwärts,' hoping to find more luck in the industry. His employment contract will run out by the end of this year, as will all other's contracts.

BTW, please keep in mind that this is a publicly readable forum.