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General Discussion => General Linguistics => Topic started by: Kilian on 2006-11-27 23:01:53

Title: Sam and the Coathangers
Post by: Kilian on 2006-11-27 23:01:53
About a year ago, Sam Featherston explained a difference between English and German syntax using coathangers with revolving hooks. Laura present-mindedly took a photo.

(http://www.fs-sprachwissenschaft.uni-tuebingen.de/media/Sam.jpg)
Title: Sam and the Coathangers
Post by: johannes on 2006-11-30 00:38:08
Kilian, how about posting some of Sam's collected quotations here? Wouldn't that fit nicely?
Title: Sam and the Coathangers
Post by: Kilian on 2006-11-30 10:47:44
Now you could ask why they used Greek letters here and wrote alpha = SU, beta = DO and gamma = IO at the bottom instead of just writing SU, DO and IO at the top. The reason for this is that Greek letters look really academic and deeply formal. Isn't it great?

If two people have the same mother, they're sisters - in grammar.

If you say "Sam's destruction of the city", it is quite clear that it is the city that is destroyed. However, if you only say "Sam's destruction", it might well be Sam that is destroyed. Very sad. A very sad thing indeed.

John met a student of art history, and Wolfgang met one of bad character.

How can you show that "student" is a constituent in "John met a student of physics"? Hm, that's tricky... perhaps, if I say: "John met a -krk- of physics", you can say: "John met a what of physics?"

If you don't understand that, you're right.

It is - as linguists put it - "poorly understood", which means basically that we have no idea whatsoever what's going on.
Title: Sam and the Coathangers
Post by: Laura on 2006-12-10 17:50:01
Nice... and what about all those funny quotes from Frank, Prof. Sternefeld, Prof. v. Stechow (well, concerning the latter, I'd better ask Anne...)? Eagerly waiting for more!  :wink:

Sometime during the last semester, Aleks drew a picture of the "Skeemer" - do you think that would fit in here?
Title: Sam and the Coathangers
Post by: aleks on 2006-12-11 11:33:37
I dunno whether it's on my hard disk still...

Well, whatever. How about making our own ISCL fortune cookie? Just collect the quotations and put the cookie somewhere online (probably Fachschaftswebsite...)
Title: Sam and the Coathangers
Post by: Laura on 2006-12-11 13:43:06
Aleks, pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease! Don't tell me you deleted this supreme piece of artwork!  :cry:  The fortune cookies are a good idea! I'll ask Anne about more quotations.
Title: Sam and the Coathangers
Post by: aleks on 2006-12-11 14:36:32
I already got one from Frank:

" ... because, You know, things the computer scientists do are mostly trivial. "

That's from the last semester :)

We should count how often he uses the word "trivial" per lesson... I got the feeling it were about 50 times this time...
Title: Sam and the Coathangers
Post by: Kilian on 2006-12-11 14:46:38
In sentences like "It looks very difficult at the first sight, but once you've understood it, it's really quite non-trivial. ... Errr, it's quite trivial."

More quotes to come to the "Small talk" board tonight...
Title: Sam and the Coathangers
Post by: Laura on 2006-12-11 15:59:59
Quote from: "aleks"

We should count how often he uses the word "trivial" per lesson... I got the feeling it were about 50 times this time...


Same for Prof. von Stechow! :)
Title: Sam and the Coathangers
Post by: Armin on 2006-12-11 16:10:14
v. Stechow in Reinkultur:

"Das habe ich noch nicht verstanden."

über andere:

"Das funktioniert so nicht."

über sich selbst:

"Da habe ich auch schonmal was drüber geschrieben, und zwei Wochen nach der Veröffentlichung festgestellt, dass es falsch war."

Dabei ist er mal ehrlich der Einzige, der richtigen Durchblick hat. Semantik halt...
Title: Sam and the Coathangers
Post by: aleks on 2006-12-11 16:15:10
Aber Armin, das ist doch nicht der Witz der Sache.

Der Witz der Sache ist nämlich, ähm, also wenn wir uns diesen Satz mal anschauen. Der Witz der Sache ist also, also...

Es ist immer wieder lustig, zu sehen, dass die Sachen, die man da gerade lernt, erst vor ein paar Tagen so wirklich Gestalt angenommen haben :) (Das ist der Witz der Sache ;))

Anne sollte eine relativ vollständige Liste aller verbalen Ausrutscher unserer Dozenten haben

(Übrigens find ich den Skeemer grad nimmer... sorry)

Grüße, aleks
Title: Sam and the Coathangers
Post by: Kilian on 2006-12-11 17:07:02
Some quotes from Wolfgang Sternefeld (http://www2.sfs.uni-tuebingen.de/~wolfgang/Stilblueten.html) are published on his own web site...
Title: Sam and the Coathangers
Post by: Armin on 2006-12-11 17:22:53
Erwähnenswert auch seine Karriere, wie er sie selbst sieht:

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Okt. 2003 - Sept. 2005 Höhepunkt der Karriere: Hausvogt für das Verfügungsgebäude Wilhelmstr. 19