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Parties and Events / Re: Christmas party
« on: 2006-12-19 18:13:50 »
~ Das Menü ~

~ Italienisch (wird um 19:00 Uhr geliefert) ~
½ Blech Margherita
½ Blech Vegetaria
½ Blech Tonno
½ Blech Salami

~ Indisch (muss um 18:45 Uhr im Tulsi Palace, Wilhelmstr. 88, abgeholt werden) ~
2 Fladenbrote
1 Portion Chicken Gemüse
1 Portion Lamb Korma Badami
1 Portion Shahi Korma nach Mogul Art (vegeatrisch)

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Parties and Events / Re: Christmas party
« on: 2006-12-18 22:50:54 »
Nomi, wie war das noch: Bringst du Plastikbesteck mit?

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Parties and Events / Re: Christmas party
« on: 2006-12-18 21:45:06 »
Den Inder kenne ich, aber wo ist der Italiener?

Achtung: Der Inder hat von 14:30 Uhr bis 17:30 Uhr Mittagspause.

Vielleicht gucken wir uns einfach zu Beginn des morgigen TaCoS-Treffens die Speisekarte an und bestellen dann telefonisch?

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General topics / Re: New forum software
« on: 2006-12-18 18:44:49 »
As far as the administration with the web interface goes, it is quite easy, but to fix the RSS some code would have to be changed. If you find the time, you're welcome to do something. :)

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Parties and Events / Re: Christmas party
« on: 2006-12-18 18:41:57 »
Na, Mittwochabend um sieben. Es ist aber mit dem stark verzögerten Eintrudeln vieler zu rechnen, zum Beispiel ist da Deutschkurs.

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General topics / Re: New forum software
« on: 2006-12-18 17:35:06 »
 :) ;) :D ;D >:( :( :o 8) ??? ::) :P :-[ :-X :-\ :-* :'(

Surprise, surprise! SMF comes with two smiley sets, of which I have now enabled classic. These guys look nicer, right? For the more important stuff, like having author names in the RSS feed, alas, I haven't yet had the time to find a solution to.

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Parties and Events / Re: Christmas party
« on: 2006-12-18 15:42:43 »
Denk daran, den Wasserkocher mitzubringen. :)

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Small talk / Re: Quotes of interest for linguists
« on: 2006-12-16 21:28:56 »
"I mean, look at her. She's got elbow cleavage. You know, that little wrinkle that fat people get on their elbows that looks like a schwa?"
Peter Griffin in Family Guy, Season 5, Episode 13 "Sibling Rivalry"

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Parties and Events / Re: Christmas party
« on: 2006-12-15 13:28:45 »
Anna und Charlotte reden heute mit H.T. auch über Geld - warten wir das erst mal ab.

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General topics / New forum software
« on: 2006-12-15 13:26:02 »
As you might have noticed, things suddenly look a bit different around here. That's because I just replaced phpBB by Simple Machines Forum, which is generally better and hopefully less prone to automated registration by spammers. Apart from the new look, everything should stay exactly as you know it. In case something went wrong with the migration I didn't notice, there is an emergency copy of the old forum at http://fs-sprachwissenschaft.uni-tuebingen.de/phpbb.

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Parties and Events / Christmas party
« on: 2006-12-15 12:10:25 »
Anna + Charlotte(besprechen mit H.T. das zu liefernde Essen), Kuchen
Armin50 Pappteller, ca. 20 Plastikbecher, Teelichter?
Charlotte1 Wasserkocher
NomiPlastikbesteck?
RamonLautsprecher

Wie organisieren wir die Getränke?

Wer hilft Janina beim Wecklespizzamachen?

Nofiza und Isnije wollen auch was zu Essen mitbringen.

Ich kann an dem Tag doch erst gegen 16:45 da sein, habe noch eine dienstliche Besprechung vorher.

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Parties and Events / Christmas party
« on: 2006-12-14 21:25:04 »
I met Ramon today and persuaded him to bring his speakers. More "who brings what" stuff to come.

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General topics / Fachschaft meeting 2006-12-14
« on: 2006-12-14 21:23:41 »
Thanks, Laura! Your sacrifice is appreciated. :)

Nomi, Anna, Charlotte, Andreas, Anas, Armin and I were in the meeting today. We basically talked about the Christmas/Truckenbrodt party.

Anna and Charlotte will ask Herr Truckenbrodt about the money and food matters tomorrow.

On the day of the party, a group of a few people (Anna, Armin, Charlotte, Kilian, hopefully Sladja and anyone who'd like to join in) will be at the SfS from 4 PM on and just keep working until the room looks ready for the party.

There is also a "Who brings what" list for cardboard dishes and plastic cutlery/cups, but it is in my dorm whereas my only working Internet connection at the moment is at the ZDV. Gotta work on that. ;) I'll post the list in the Christmas party thread later on.

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General topics / Fachschaft meeting 2006-12-14
« on: 2006-12-12 21:28:53 »
:) :idea:

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Parties and Events / Christmas party
« on: 2006-12-12 20:05:04 »
Herr Truckenbrodt offered his financial support, e.g. to buy some warm food so we don't need so many cooks. Nomi suggested a salad buffet. With this mixture, I think, the party is gonna be a culinary success. :D

The coathangers for our christmas tree are there, I got ten from the boutique Haidt. Does somebody have Christmas decoration (like red balls, straw stars etc.)?

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General topics / Fachschaft meeting 2006-12-14
« on: 2006-12-12 20:00:43 »
Everybody feeling informed (I sent an e-mail yesterday at half past three)? :D

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Small talk / Quotes: Introduction to Generative Syntax
« on: 2006-12-11 17:47:07 »
Ja, wobei man jetzt unterscheidet: Wörter, die's gibt, und Wörter, die's nicht gibt.

Auch fürs Deutsche gibt es Beispiele. Die Beispiele sind natürlich sexistisch in der Linguistik, daran muss man sich gewöhnen.

Beim Englischen haben wir das andauernd, dass Komposita nicht zusammengeschrieben werden. (zu Chris, dem einzigen englischen Muttersprachler im Kurs) Es ist eine Frechheit, ja?

Irgendwas muss doch im Kopf außer Kraft gesetzt werden, damit man nicht anfängt, zu lachen, wenn man das liest.

Ein Barockflötist ist kein Flötist mit barockem Benehmen oder Kleidung oder der schon lange tot ist...

Wenn man was ganz Aktuelles zur Morphologie will, also etwas, das von neun... also, was haben wir... von 2006 ist...

(unterbricht den Vortrag, um die Entsorgung seines Teebeutels zu kommentieren:) Bio-Abfall trotz Metallklammer!

Jede Feld-, Wald-, Wiesen-DP hätte so ein Merkmal - das wäre technisch so ein Overkill, das sollte man vermeiden.

Ich wusste doch, das ich irgendwann mit dieser Terminologie wieder in Konflikt gerate.

Und was ist die Grundform, auf Deutsch übersetzt? Der Infinitiv.

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Small talk / Quotes: Parsing
« on: 2006-12-11 17:46:18 »
We promised you toys.

We love few rules - computers love stupid things, no matter how many.

This is the kind of unreadable thing that computers like.

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(über das ISCL Weekend)
The basic idea is to do it like last year and the year before.

(discussing problems of designing an interlingua)
You could even make it redundant, if you are stupid.

Style doesn't count. Make it reasonably grammatical.

We have seen this slide before - but not in colors. I'm very proud of this magenta here. Why did I make the text magenta here? Well, let's just look at it for some more minutes. You might become sick of it.

The first surprise today is the return of the Teilnehmerliste.

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Now you could ask why they used Greek letters here and wrote alpha = SU, beta = DO and gamma = IO at the bottom instead of just writing SU, DO and IO at the top. The reason for this is that Greek letters look really academic and deeply formal. Isn't it great?

If two people have the same mother, they're sisters - in grammar.

If you say "Sam's destruction of the city", it is quite clear that it is the city that is destroyed. However, if you only say "Sam's destruction", it might well be Sam that is destroyed. Very sad. A very sad thing indeed.

John met a student of art history, and Wolfgang met one of bad character.

How can you show that "student" is a constituent in "John met a student of physics"? Hm, that's tricky... perhaps, if I say: "John met a -krk- of physics", you can say: "John met a what of physics?"

If you don't understand that, you're right.

It is - as linguists put it - "poorly understood", which means basically that we have no idea whatsoever what's going on.

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If you go to a normal humanities department, where nobody has even ever seen a computer...

As you know, everything begins with Chomsky.

People forgot it very quickly. And these were not uneducated Americans - this happened at top Ivy League universities. Where people like George Bush went.

When I was a teenager, I put a constraint on my mother. I told her: You can only ask me yes-no-questions.

There's an ongoing battle going on.

I wish I could tell you more about statistical hypothesis testing. This is, like, the most exciting thing in the world.

Self-paced reading: A poor man's eyetracker.

This is just a model, by the way. He does not assume you have rectangles in your head.

At this time, Chomsky was quite dominant, like, he was the ruler of the universe.

I'm not going to be consequent with not naming the lecturers I took the quotes from, Shravan Vasisth's web site is too brilliant...

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Small talk / Quotes: Vergleichskonstruktionen
« on: 2006-12-11 17:36:24 »
Wie sagt man denn - sind Bücher bei uns dick oder lang?

(über falsch gedruckte Sonderzeichen)
Hier ist Bill Gates in die Quere gekommen.

Du brauchst irgendeine externe Motivation, dich so merkwürdig auszudrücken.

In welchem semantischen Zustand kommt das Adjektiv auf die Welt?

(über die Vergleichbarkeit von Länge und Breite)
Wie rum ich in der realen Welt das Metermaß halte, ist für die Semantik sekundär.

Nahuatl und Samoan sind Sprachen, die vom Schwabenlande etwas weiter entfernt gesprochen werden.

Ich hab mir das so vorgestellt, dass man sich nur trifft, wenn's auch wirklich was zu besprechen gibt. Also zum Beispiel nicht jede Woche.

Ich schlage vor, das ihr euch beide den Strassen mal reinzieht.

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Small talk / Quotes: Mixed
« on: 2006-12-11 17:29:52 »
Adam Przepiórkowski: You have no idea what it means to be an argument!
Comment: No - just what it means to be a set of properties (i.e. an individual).

Anas: I'm sorry I'm not invisible!

Conny (um 16:16 Uhr): Ich glaub, wir können gehen. Der kommt nicht mehr.
Maria-Claudia: Nein! Das... ist ein Fehlschluss!

Frank: What will "rm *.tex" do?
Alex: It will erase all your maths homework.

Martin (Ex-ISCLer): Analysiert ihr eure eigene Sprache? Drehen sich in euren Köpfen Kleiderbügel, während ihr sprecht?

Premper (Linguistische Beiträge zum Hebräischen): Doublecase ist natürlich evidentermaßen ein Problem - schon für den gesunden Menschenverstand, aber auch theoretisch.

Wir sprechen in der Einführung in die optimalitätstheretische Syntax über ein Phänomen der gotischen Sprache, die uns fast ausschließlich in Form von Fragmenten einer Bibelübersetzung erhalten ist. Aleks weist darauf hin, dass wir uns daher womöglich mit einer hochgestochenen und unalltäglichen Variante des Gotischen beschäftigen.
Simon: Naja, da musst du mal die Gothen von heute fragen.
Aleks: Da geh ich am besten auf ne Con, oder?

Udi: 'Communist' ist the other word for 'Russian', right?

Laura: Die Semantikklausur heute hat auch ein Blinder geschrieben. Ich hatte den nie gesehen...
Armin: Er dich auch nicht.

Armin: Soll ich deinen Kuli mitbringen? Brauchst du ihn? Wo ist er?
Bela: Der liiiiiegt... danke für den Algorithmus zum Denken...

Michaela (TaCoS 2006): Google ist nicht part-of-speech-getaggt, wie euch wahrscheinlich auch schon aufgefallen ist.

R. Vogel (after a lenghty introduction): This class is held in English, as you might have noticed.

R. Vogel: [Arabs] don't speak from future to past.

Chris: You get annoyed, and you get educated at the same time.

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Small talk / Quotes: Mathematics for Linguists
« on: 2006-12-11 17:25:04 »
Georgi: For this time, any way of saying it is okay as long as it is okay enough.

Hamm: Note! I'm not arguing for linguistic relativity here. Some people always say that the Eskimos have 50 words for snow...
The Choir of Naughty Students: Noooooo, it's not true, blah blah...
Hamm: But even if - who cares?

Of course I do not expect you to understand.

Let's have a proof of about ten minutes.

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Homework assignment: Give me a list of things that a chair is not.

James Bond is driving a car. <-> A car is being driven by James Bond.
In both cases, we say that James Bond is some kind of *agent* of a driving action.

A language community consists of at least two persons, maybe of one person, if you exclusively talk to yourself.

Today is going to be boring, but Thursday is going to be exciting.

Let's have a five-minute break that doesn't last longer than ten minutes.

I can say "He is almighty" without pointing upstairs, and you still understand who I'm talking about.

To change the intension of "the president of France", you have to conquer France and change its constitution.

The sentence "The pope's wife has a new lover" is neither true nor false because it has a presupposition that is not fulfilled. But maybe you could say "The pope's lover has a new wife" - who knows.

If something happens twice, it also happens once.

God didn't create economy of speech on the seventh day.

It would be weird to answer the question "How did Harry fare in court today?" with "Oh, he got a fine" in a situation where Harry got a fine and was also sentenced to death.

You say with very puzzled eyes that John has at least three cows...

Although I'm a bit older than 18, it's not too weird to say: "Yes, I can go to this movie, I'm already 18" - at least not weirder than the movies you're only allowed to see when you're 18.

Another question that was indirectly adressed to me is whether the open questions in the exam could also be answered in German. That's okay with me - any language I can read is fine. Also if you feel like writing your answers in French, Dutch or Middle Dutch, that's okay. Bulgarian is not allowed.

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Small talk / Quotes: Java tutorials
« on: 2006-12-11 17:19:55 »
Jochen: Was ist das für 'n Geräusch? Ich glaub, wir ham ne Schlange im Labor.
Aleks:  Das ist die Klimaanlage!
Jochen: Hm... Ich mach die Klimaanlage gerne aus. ... Wobei, wenn's kälter ist, ist die Boa Constrictor langsamer.

Johannes: Ein Overflow beim Poppen, das wäre ungewöhnlich.
Aleks: (kicher, witzel)
Jochen: Diese Späßle. Vielleicht sollte man mal eine Bartwickelmaschine zu Weihnachten schenken.

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Small talk / Quotes: Java I + II
« on: 2006-12-11 17:19:08 »
Java is very case-sensitive.

My K's always look capital.

An example is the attempt to divide by zero. That will cause a runtime error because infinity is not very well represented on a computer.

So static methods are kinda second class citizens within a class.

So we can have a pet class...

Being a person, I forgot to set the .0 there.

Should we talk about why newborn.PetRecord is illegal?

I want to initialize my pet now.

It's not a good idea to use static instance variables. It was discouraged in a book I read.

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(Prof. v. Stechow has drawn a section of the oral cavity on the board) Where is the tip of the tongue when you pronounce [t]? Now, *I* (makes the incisor longer and pointier) pronounce it like this...

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If I have one principle in life, then it is this one: The funding agency is always right.

(tries to explain the relative position of two secretaries' offices)
She's right below my secretary, figuratively speaking.

And though it might be easy for some, it might be useful for others.

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Small talk / Quotes: Russisch I
« on: 2006-12-11 17:08:52 »
Manchmal wird es etwas länger ausgesprochen, je nach dem, wie man drauf ist.

Die ENDung ist das, was sich ÄNDert.

Im Hauptgebäude der MGU gibt es alles, sogar ein Schuhgeschäft... also, ein Schuhgeschäft nicht, aber man kann seine Schuhe da reparieren. Da habe ich meine Schuhe mal repariert.

Sehr gut, dass Sie es nicht verstehen!

Wenn Sie in den Norden gehen, wo lauter Omas noch wohnen, da hätten Sie unseren Phonetikunterricht gar nicht gebraucht, weil man da wirklich mo-lo-ko sagt.

Seite 37, das sind unsere Schulden, das haben wir noch nicht gemacht.

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General Linguistics / Sam and the Coathangers
« on: 2006-12-11 17:07:02 »
Some quotes from Wolfgang Sternefeld are published on his own web site...

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General topics / Fachschaft meeting 2006-12-14
« on: 2006-12-11 14:48:11 »
A difficult decision then... luckily, I've come up with the brilliant idea to have Sladja make it, because she can't make Mondays at all. And Sladja says let's have the meeting at

4 PM.

So that's it, then. Sorry for those for whom it's a bad time, you see what it's like...

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General Linguistics / Sam and the Coathangers
« on: 2006-12-11 14:46:38 »
In sentences like "It looks very difficult at the first sight, but once you've understood it, it's really quite non-trivial. ... Errr, it's quite trivial."

More quotes to come to the "Small talk" board tonight...

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Quote from: "aleks"
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Using mostly self-soldered cables... (Audio, though)


Thank god I'm not the only one.


No, this was a very respectful amusement of mine. :) I was reminded of when you suggested to put together an own physical server for the Fachschaft web site...

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Regarding the course of the party: well, let's just be prepared for whatever the people want to do and have a great time.


I agree so much! The room is big enough, so I'm pretty sure it will be possible for everyone to have the kind of party that suits them. :)

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Because of a very important seminar meeting (one of only two real-life meetings in the semester, it's an online seminar), I can't be there before 9 PM. So the question whether I'm willing and able to bring something for dinner doesn't come up, luckily. ;) (edit: not true anymore, I'll be there early)

I suggest I'll announce the date (to as many e-mail-addresses as I can gather), ask people what they'll bring, and when we know what kind of food to expect, we fix the time (3 days beforehand or so).

WHAT form is needed for room 0.02, and WHO has to fill it in? H. Truckenbrodt?

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I should have such cables at home. If not, I'm quite good with the soldering iron and could make one up.

That's SO Aleks :D

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General topics / Fachschaft meeting 2006-12-14
« on: 2006-12-08 19:50:02 »
It said 6 PM here, I thought that was okay. I can make it at 4 PM or 8 PM as well. What about the others people from higher semesters? Aleks? Anna? Armin? Charlotte? Johannes? Jon? Laura? Sladja? ...?

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AV cable - something like this?

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The east seminar room on the first floor used to have a "built-in" projector - isn't that the case anymore? If yes, plan B could include the playstation as well. There was already the idea to screen "Nightmare before Christmas" without sound, as a sort of decoration, because of its stylish imagery. But Playstation - why not as well? :)

The time - say from 7 PM on?

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General topics / Fachschaft meeting 2006-12-14
« on: 2006-12-08 17:16:56 »
Thanks to Anas for reminding me! The next meeting is going to take place next Thursday, 14 Dec at 6 PM 4 PM. This is the last of our three switching meeting times, the one we haven't yet tried. New and exciting! As a meeting place I suggest the Saints and Scholars, a place directly opposite the SfS. Surely there'll be a free table for us to crowd around. :D CU!

Topics:
- Christmas/After-Landeslehrpreis-Party (Wed 20 Dec, to be announced via e-mail before the meeting, on Monday or so)
- Brechtbau-Hausfest
- ...

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Parties and Events / The Brecht-Bau-Hausfest...
« on: 2006-12-03 13:33:10 »

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General topics / Re: BB Plenum 30.11.2006
« on: 2006-12-02 18:03:25 »
Quote from: "Armin"
In our room, we're allowed to do what we want, except: selling beer (...)


Oh. That's much against our plans so far. What do we do then?

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Computational Linguistics / ISCL Pinboard
« on: 2006-12-02 12:48:38 »
Thanks to DrNI, the pinboard can now be read via RSS: http://www.drni.de/cgi-bin/pinboardfeed.rss2

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Ah okay, people are different here. We established this forum mainly because many of us didn't want their mailbox "spammed shut" with Fachschaft discussion. Personally, I like better to include certain web pages into my daily routine than getting stuff into my mail box.

A chacun sa façon: There now is an RSS feed.

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We can't complain about any lack of means of communication. :) I hope topics of more or less general interest will still find their way into this forum.

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General Linguistics / Sam and the Coathangers
« on: 2006-11-30 10:47:44 »
Now you could ask why they used Greek letters here and wrote alpha = SU, beta = DO and gamma = IO at the bottom instead of just writing SU, DO and IO at the top. The reason for this is that Greek letters look really academic and deeply formal. Isn't it great?

If two people have the same mother, they're sisters - in grammar.

If you say "Sam's destruction of the city", it is quite clear that it is the city that is destroyed. However, if you only say "Sam's destruction", it might well be Sam that is destroyed. Very sad. A very sad thing indeed.

John met a student of art history, and Wolfgang met one of bad character.

How can you show that "student" is a constituent in "John met a student of physics"? Hm, that's tricky... perhaps, if I say: "John met a -krk- of physics", you can say: "John met a what of physics?"

If you don't understand that, you're right.

It is - as linguists put it - "poorly understood", which means basically that we have no idea whatsoever what's going on.

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General topics / Website
« on: 2006-11-28 19:06:11 »
The official address of our web site, as it turns out, not http://www.sfs.uni-tuebingen.de/fachschaft/ (just a visible redirect), but http://www.fs-sprachwissenschaft.uni-tuebingen.de. An invisible redirect is not as possible as I thought it was.

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General topics / Fachschaft meeting 2006-11-27
« on: 2006-11-28 00:11:50 »
So today we met at 8 PM and Johannes, Nomi, Jon, Guy, Anas, Laura, Andreas, Georgiana, Hanan (got ya name right?) and I turned up. Switching meeting times is fun, so let's hold the next meeting on Thursday, 14 December, shall we? After that, we can roll back to Monday 4 PM, and so on. Hey, and we sat at the Saints and Scholars (pub opposite the SfS). I suggest we meet there in the first place next time.

Guy is doing a great job planning for the Brechtbau-Hausfest on January 26. Concerning signing up for a room: I found nothing on the Web. But Johannes, this Thursday's delegate to the Brechtbau-Plenum, will surely find out, also about numbers of people, laws and Euros.

Wednesday, 20 December was confirmed as a good date for holding an SfS Christmas and Truckenbrodt Party. Anas will play an important part in Seeing About A Room.

A minor point: I'd like to make this forum better-known. As soon as I get around to it, I'll put together a placard to place on the Fachschaft boards in SfS and Brechtbau. If no one pre-empts me, which I would of course appreciate.

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General Linguistics / Sam and the Coathangers
« on: 2006-11-27 23:01:53 »
About a year ago, Sam Featherston explained a difference between English and German syntax using coathangers with revolving hooks. Laura present-mindedly took a photo.


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Computational Linguistics / ISCL Pinboard
« on: 2006-11-27 22:57:05 »
To start with something in this board: ISCL students shouldn't forget to check out the ISCL Pinboard.

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General topics / Mailing list
« on: 2006-11-26 18:43:29 »
There was a bit of confusion because when someone wrote to the mailing list and you answered them, the answer went to the mailing list by default! I was taken in by that more than once. That should now be over, I changed the setting at Google Groups.

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